we road up apple creek, love going up there because nobody else does. no groomer, no trail markers! get to see places in the winter no one else might ever have. the first pic is at the summit of apple cr. the second is the information board at the hemlock lake campground, the last is what happens when you jump off the top off the information board looks like the mound is 4 feet wide but was only about 10 inches. was a little climb to get up there without falling!!!!